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NCmom's avatar

Anecdotally I’m seeing all kinds of crap in the highly vaccinated in my life while my husband and I and our kids are all unvaccinated and healthy and we had to have a Covid party a year ago yo even get it (traveling including internationally and living normally and even our daughter having an emergency appendectomy in November 2021 wasn’t doing the trick).

We know 8 died suddenly while healthy people. 3 were over 65 so who knows. The other five were fathers between 41 and 55. All were healthy. Three were college athletes that were still super active (2 track 1 soccer). 3 catastrophic heart attacks, 1 pulmonary embolism, 1 brain bleed (initially was thought to be a random Sunday afternoon car accident but the insurance company demanded an autopsy and it showed he was dead prior to impact). To me these shots have been evidentially dangerous from the start and clearly were not working by June 2021. I’m terrified of these shots and terrified for all the people I love who have taken 2 to 4 of them.

All that to say, don’t overlook the unvaccinated deaths. Try to find out what they are. Ignoring it makes it too easy for the Covidians to attack the argument. 6 in 95 deaths were unvaccinated. Why? Likely they were very fragile or in care homes since they never made it to the hospital, but confirming that would eliminate the Covidian claim this data supports their assertion they prevent Covid deaths.

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Peter Imanuelsen's avatar

That is horrible to hear.

Yes, there were a few deaths among the unvaccinated in this data, I have never said that covid is completely harmless, because it isn't. It is likely man made and one would therefore expect that covid itself can cause some problems as well, especially for the vulnerable. I have family who have suffered some very bad and long lasting problems after having had covid.

That being said, it seems to be more risky to take the mRNA shots, especially for the younger population.

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Markker's avatar

I'm so sorry. What were the time frames of them dying after getting jabbed, do you know? It's a year since my adult children got theirs and although neither had any immediate side effects, they have had various infections since so I think their immune systems are compromised and I still worry about clots, especially when they go to the gym or ride a mountain bike. I can't even talk to them about trying to take Vit D or some detox meds to try to get rid of what they have in them.

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NCmom's avatar

From a few days following a booster, a couple weeks following the initial 2 shots, to close to a year after the initial doses in the case of the pulmonary embolism (but in that case the severe back and knee pain showed up about 6 months after shot 2). I do know they were all vaccinated (or said they were), but obviously I can't "prove" any one of them happened as a result of the vaccine. I can only say all-cause mortality in my extended and healthy social group was up a couple times in last two years over the combined decade before it.

Only 1 had an autopsy - A 41-year-old father of 3 got in a firey single car accident in October 2021 on a random Sunday afternoon. Even at his funeral his family believed it was just a freak thing that happened, but the insurance company insisted on an autopsy. Three weeks later they got the results and found out he was actually dead before impact from a brain bleed. It's interesting that everyone has noted the huge uptick in car accidents, and the huge uptick in people just passing out (whether they die or not), yet it doesn't seem to occur to anyone that they latter is leading to the former. Truthfully if not for my husband's college buddy with his car accident turned out to be a brain bleed, I'm not sure I would have either.

That said, I still think the overwhelming majority of people will be fine (maybe not so much after shot 4 or 5, but from shots 1-3). However, over 1 billion people got these shots. If it turns out to permanently harm or kill 1 in 400, or 0.25%, that's over 2.5 MILLION lives destroyed. That is a lot of harm, pain and suffering from a product that offered zero benefit for the vast majority who took it (if there was any benefit to anyone). And the harm rate could be much higher and hugely devastating without impacting the vast majority.

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Joseph's avatar

The shots are working .They are doing exactly what the Malthusian eugenicists who thought this up wanted them to do.

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