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james's avatar

You are arguing a different point. The original claim was that Muslims hate Christians, not that the Koran depicts Jesus in a bad light. The former can be true even if the latter is false. I agree that Islam has a positive view of Jesus, but as a prophet not as the son of God.

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Martin - Vetenskapliga partiet's avatar

They are spiritual books, and should be interpreted as such in contemplation! One should not pull one line out of context, but read the whole chapter, preferably breathing deeply, having an open attitude in order to understand on a higher level!

/Your servant

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William Voelz's avatar

Martin. Whole or in part the Muslim scripture declares you a Kafir. All non-Muslims are worthy of death. Splitting hairs over non-obligatory issues can get you censured. If over obligatory, you will be lied to....then killed if you persist.

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Martin - Vetenskapliga partiet's avatar

All die and 99% of all people will probably experience hell. They know what is the right thing to do, but don't do it. Even people, calling themselves Muslims, are not following the prophets they call prophets.

If Muslims followed Yehoshua [Isa], who is one of their prophets, then why do they kill non-believers? It is the person's beliefs, intentions and actions during life that will determine heaven or hell for that person.

Where is your psychopathic source, that "All non-Muslims are worthy of death"? That is not from God, a higher awareness, but the opposite, like some sick psycho having an erection others kill others.

If you have no credible source, then you are the psycho. I believe most Muslims believe that most non-Muslims will go to hell, and I agree with them, but as I said most calling themselves Christians will also go to hell.

However, if Muslims kill an aggressor killing Muslims, I do not shame or blame them. Then God, a higher awareness, will not punish them. Self-defense, when someone tries to kill or exterminate you, is not any problem, especially not if compassionately trying to create peace and mentally heal a defeated enemy.

Your demon is defeated. I heal you. Leave him alone, demon! Go away!

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William Voelz's avatar

Well Martin you still remain in deep need of the savior. Jesus Christ of Nazareth. He and He alone can save. Repent therefore. Regrettably, neither philosophy nor holistic anything will redeem your soul from hell. Only death and shed blood satisfies GodтАЩs requirement for redemption. It really is simple. Recognize your sin, take responsibility for it and repent. Salvation by grace through faith is sufficient. Ask the Holy Spirit to reveal the depths of your own wickedness and set you free from the tangled web of self-righteousness that is your present life. Christ has done the hard work for you. Repent. Believe and live.

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Martin - Vetenskapliga partiet's avatar

I agree. Repent! Speak the truth! Use credible sources! Why do you refuse?

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William Voelz's avatar

Martin. тАЬRainbow CoalitionтАЭ. You can do better than that !

John 3.16-18. You have read the Bible. I will not do your research for you. Dig it out if you are a true seeker after Truth. Christ said, тАЬI am the way, the truth and the lifeтАЭ.

Simply repent and believe.

All your Rainbow has to offer is demonic confusion coming out of the occult. Extract yourself. Your word salad remarks are indeed full of your self-righteous, man-centered nonsense.

Get after it. What are you waiting for ? The invitation has been given. Calvary is long past. But today is the dayтАж..

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Martin - Vetenskapliga partiet's avatar

Before you believe, you must search for truth openly and skeptically, or your belief will not be strong!

"Rainbow" refers to the political colors of the rainbow. All colors. The rainbow is an optical phenomenon, belonging to nobody and all, and I do feel so sorry for all victims of poison, just like those frogs going homosexual from atrazine, messing with their bodies and their minds. We must help all go organic, ecological sustainable and heal!

Talking about the occult: Listen to Bill Donahue "724 Jesus The Essene"! Today could be the day....

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William Voelz's avatar

Hey Martin. There you go again with your philosophical word salad. Much ado about nothing as Shakespeare would say. Good luck. YouтАЩre going to need it.

I belong to Christ. No luck needed.

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Martin - Vetenskapliga partiet's avatar

Where is your psychopathic source, that "All non-Muslims are worthy of death"? That is not from God, a higher awareness, but the opposite.

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William Voelz's avatar

You repeat yourself. At a loss for words so soon? Lol. тАЬA higher awarenessтАЭ? Really? Read Gen. the account of the birth of Ishmael. God cursed him. He is a wild ass of a man. His hand will be against every man and every manтАЩs hand will be against hisтАЭ. Ishmael is the source of Islam and the Muslims. Ishmael, the son of the bond woman will not inherit with the son of the free woman. Jacob/ Israel is the son of the free woman and will inherit the Kingdom of the Heavens. ThatтАЩs what this fight is about. Two half-brothers (Israel and Islam) fighting for the same inheritance.

Ishmael will die in the last half of the Tribulation.

Read the тАЬReliance of the TravellerтАЭ. Entire history of the failure of Islam and its ultimate demise. Meantime Muslims think peace springs from the entire world coming under Sharia law. ItтАЩs a fraud. Remedy? The only remedy for Muslims is for them to repent and become part of the One New Man in Christ. All else is a cruel joke.

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